Mister, about that survey you put out a while ago. Do you think that we could ever find a way to get back into that collective dream state? Do you even think it'd be a wise thing to try and figure out?
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And maybe. And also maybe? But in my experience, the best kind of science is decidedly unwise.
[ it's risky. or stupid, according to his brother. ]
I think the best way to figure out how to make it happen is to work out why it happened the first time, but so far we don't have a lot of leads. We don't even know if it's something we did with our collective woowoo powers or if someone or something did it to us.
[ he's getting better with these weird western naming practices ok ]
I think it's worth keeping an eye and an ear on for now. I'm terrible at organizing groups, but I have a better hold on my subconscious than most people - I'm only ballparking right now - but, if we could train some of us to be more aware of the dreamstate for a "next time"...
I have the normal amount of experience with controlling my subconscious, unfortunately. [ well. mostly. "it's complicated", but control was definitely not a factor. ] How do you train someone to get a hold on that? Isn't "not under control" baked into the definition?
[ not saying it isn't a good idea. it is, he's just curious!! ]
In my training as a cultivator, we learned how to control nearly every aspect of our mortal bodies. Right down to the very fabric that makes us age or makes us hungry. Our conscious lives and subconscious lives were on equal grounds, it's just a matter of education in the end -- and there's three of us ( cultivators! ) here that could help instruct anyone who'd want to learn.
The only problem being that it takes years. If I could figure out a way to make it faster... ugh. It's all conjecture right now, and probably not the most important thing on any of our big list of Important Things.
I think they could help, undoubtedly. Sometimes people learn from the gut, more than the brain. I don't think anyone is unteachable, and while my two countrymen are more traditionally structured than I, I prefer to approach every opportunity as if it's a great one.
Imagine if we could empathy bond to link our dreams! Even if they don't affect the world, time moves differently there. We could spend years teaching one another soooooo much inside of a dream, and possibly wake with only a night having passed. Hah, wouldn't that be convenient.
Has anyone ever told you you're disgustingly optimistic?
[ no tone via text, but he's mostly charmed. ]
I did try to push the empathy bonds with a few people when I first showed up. We just got very up in our feelings — no dreams, memories, any other kind of transfer. But it's always possible our abilities have evolved with recent events.
Either way, feelings might help people get on the same page faster. You might want to pitch some kind of training/dream club when you're ready, see how it goes over with everyone else.
I want to talk it over with my countrymen, maybe start with a small group to test the limits and consequences before I suggest it to all of us. I'd hate to disappoint.
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You can call me Johnny.
And maybe. And also maybe? But in my experience, the best kind of science is decidedly unwise.
[ it's risky. or stupid, according to his brother. ]
I think the best way to figure out how to make it happen is to work out why it happened the first time, but so far we don't have a lot of leads. We don't even know if it's something we did with our collective woowoo powers or if someone or something did it to us.
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[ he's getting better with these weird western naming practices ok ]
I think it's worth keeping an eye and an ear on for now. I'm terrible at organizing groups, but I have a better hold on my subconscious than most people - I'm only ballparking right now - but, if we could train some of us to be more aware of the dreamstate for a "next time"...
We'd be a literal "dream team", ha ha!
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[ that's terrible and he approves, good work. ]
I have the normal amount of experience with controlling my subconscious, unfortunately. [ well. mostly. "it's complicated", but control was definitely not a factor. ] How do you train someone to get a hold on that? Isn't "not under control" baked into the definition?
[ not saying it isn't a good idea. it is, he's just curious!! ]
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The only problem being that it takes years. If I could figure out a way to make it faster... ugh. It's all conjecture right now, and probably not the most important thing on any of our big list of Important Things.
I just wanted to tell you it was a possibility.
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You know my Familyname's right there, right
What about the empathy links? Do you think that could help fast track the lessons, or is it more about intellect than feeling?
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I think they could help, undoubtedly. Sometimes people learn from the gut, more than the brain. I don't think anyone is unteachable, and while my two countrymen are more traditionally structured than I, I prefer to approach every opportunity as if it's a great one.
Imagine if we could empathy bond to link our dreams! Even if they don't affect the world, time moves differently there. We could spend years teaching one another soooooo much inside of a dream, and possibly wake with only a night having passed. Hah, wouldn't that be convenient.
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Has anyone ever told you you're disgustingly optimistic?
[ no tone via text, but he's mostly charmed. ]
I did try to push the empathy bonds with a few people when I first showed up. We just got very up in our feelings — no dreams, memories, any other kind of transfer. But it's always possible our abilities have evolved with recent events.
Either way, feelings might help people get on the same page faster. You might want to pitch some kind of training/dream club when you're ready, see how it goes over with everyone else.
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I want to talk it over with my countrymen, maybe start with a small group to test the limits and consequences before I suggest it to all of us. I'd hate to disappoint.
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[ his brillIANT scientific experiments, for example. which he usually rushes into..... and is disappointing because of it............ anyway. ]
You mind keeping me in the loop? With that, or just when you move into phase 2.
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